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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:28 am 
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I would also like to suggest under this topic that the supplementation of Magnesium Chloride may be very beneficial to all racehorses, particularly those that are experiencing tying-up. The value of this mineral is greatly under-appreciated as is the Mg depletion of most horses that are under stress of all types. Plus, Lasix drains a horse of its Magnesium reserves severely! Miracles can occur when such horses are supplemented with Magnesium Chloride!

Horses that are low in Magnesium may have many different symptoms manifested that are hard to draw a picture from. So, this is tricky with Magnesium deficiency often overlooked! If your race horse is

1) overly nervous,
2) tends to tying-up,
3) exhibit back soreness/muscle cramping,
4) has hoof problems,
5) has stifle problems,
6) excessive sweating in hot weather,
7) bad hair coat
8) watery eyes
9) respiratory/breathing problems

. . . . one or many of these problems may be traced to Mg deficiency! Every horse is different!

Magnesium Chloride Hexahydrate is probably the best bio-available form to give with a few exceptions. One of the simplest ways to give it is to dissolve it in water. I would use distilled water. Dissolve 15 grams (approximately one tablespoon) of Magnesium Chloride flakes in 150ml of water or an equivalent there of. Place 10ml of this solution in the feed, twice a day. Increase by 10ml every three days until you work up to 50ml per feeding . If you increase too fast, your horse will possibly start scourinig. In fact, this is a good way to tell you have reached maximum dosage of Magnesium Chloride, When your horse's manure starts to go soft, back off to the previous dosage level and maintain that level. Let your horse's feces dictate dosage! BUT start out slow! Once the horse's body has obtained adequate Mg levels, it is possible you can back off supplementation. So always be observant!

Remember! Horses under extreme stress and on high carbohydrate diets will be in dire need of Mg supplementation! Too much Magnesium supplementation is not desirable either, so let your horse's feces dictate how it should be given. Always strive for normal manure consistency!

It might also be added that horses that have foundered should be supplemented immediately. Miracles have occurred from using this on horses with laminitis!

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We often use magnesium in the treatment of full blown laminitis and it has been found to have a significant effect in the majority of cases. Unfortunately, it is usually only part of the problem and therefore doesn’t offer a magic cure, although there have been some miraculous recoveries recorded simply through supplementation.

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 Post subject: Re: Mg Supplementation
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:30 am 
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Here is an anecdotal case-study from a woman that posted on the MMS message board and is of interest here:




Oct 9, 2013

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HI, MY HORSE got sicker over a period of 3 weeks she needed to be stalled and she had mostly access to hay (what probably has been sprayed with poison ) She is very sick can not stand easy is laying down and her muscles are contracting and or loosing strength. I have been giving her cds started with 16 ml and dmso every hour for 11 hours and then left her for 8 hours and she was worse laying down cramped up eating but hardly drinking, She had bowel motions and we saw her urinating last night around 7 pm.
Vet has been called and painrelief does not have any effect but musle relaxation has but they were ready to put her down, but I insisted to give me and her more time.
I am increasing the CDS have been giving her now 35 ml and DMSO but not sure if that is the right thing to do. ANY ADVISE WHAT TO DO BETTER OR MORE OR???
Seeing she has difficutlies standing and keeping her balance I am in danger to be under her when she falls over so soaking or bagging her legs will be a difficult risky task.
Please help.
thanks Gaya




Oct 10, 2013


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I just got a Neurolink person in and did this work on my horse also the vet attended and gave pain and muslce relaxer. All seem to have an effect and she walking and we managed to get her into the stall. They now say that they think it is major burst of Laminitis??? I am not convinced but I will do what is needed for that, and am now thinking how to continue with CDS, DMSO etc.
I still think that the hay I gave had poison in it but I can be wrong who knows?
Hopefully we see an improvement over the next couple of days. She did not die and we have a chance!. Thank you for your support.




Oct 10, 2013
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If it is laminitis then please look at feeding Magnesium Chloride. We are having amazing results in Australia with Laminitis/Founder issues since implementing this to suspect, or horses already severely affected horses.See attachment for further info please.

This was a recent email received from a Barefoot Trimmer here In WA that I have the greatest respect for , she knows her stuff & what horses need. She thanks me, but in all honesty it is her work that is doing the most for our horses welfare. I hope this helps.
She says : Thought I'd better let you know that I'm packing up 300gm bags of Mag Chloride to get all the laminitis horses onto Mag Chloride immediately.
I have put the same instructions to dilute it as you have, so no one will be confused (I hope) when they get some from you. It is the best way to get Mag into a horse and I'm having really good results turning insulin resistant horses around including one owned by my Vet that is boarding with me.
I'm not interested in supplying minerals, I'd rather you did that. Its due to you that I have learned all about Mag Chloride and it is being used more and more in the Equine field even though there are no "scientific studies" yet.
Keep up the good work.
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Jacky




Oct 13, 2013
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THANK THANK YOU SO SO MUCH.

THE ARTICLE SAVED MY HORSES LIFE!!!!

It was such a rollercoaster and today I am catching my breath and have time to reply a bit more in dept.
Amazing results with giving my horse the MAGNIESIUM CHLORIDE as mentioned in the article.

The vet was indicating that she is not responding to painrelief and all the other injections he gave her like muslce relaxer. anti inflam, and vitamins etc and did not see any other way then considering to put her out of her missery.

She was laying down in massive musle contractions, still at times alert and grapped herself a bite to eat and then cramped up again. We were hardly able to get her up she was laying down for hours. With a lot of efford we got her up and the vet gave again his coctails Vitamins and painrelief and musle relaxer to see if this time it would help.
A few hours later she was able to walk a little bit and a friend gave her also a Neurolink session and noticed pancreas and gut problems.
She treated this and she was able to walk a distance to her stall. For a few hours she was able to stand and then she layed down again and did not want to get up her musles starting to contract again.

In the morning I saw the article and started her immediatly on the Magnesium Chloride. She also got an injection of Fluxiine and as hourly her CDS and DMSO.
That morning she started on the Mag/Chl she got a bit more relaxed less restless and LESS CRAMPS. Her legs were more calm and she stayed on her feet the whole day until late in the evening!!!
From that time onwards she only improved she started walking with more ease and she was able to lay down and get up on her own accord.

AMAZING THE EFFECT THE MAGNIESIUM CHLORITE HAD ON HER.
I NOW UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPEND IT HAD ALL THE SIGNS OF POISONING BUT IT WAS A DEPLETION OF MAGNESIUM.
THE STRESS AND PAIN WERE CONSUMING ALL HER MAGNESIUM AT A FAST RATE OUT OF HER BODY AND WHAT WE WERE GIVING WAS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO WHAT SHE NEEDED
WE WERE UN AWARE THAT SHE WAS CONSUMING IT IN SUCH A HIGH RATE!!!
WE WERE LOOSING HER MINUTE BY MINUTE.

I FEEL SO BLESSED THAT YOU TOOK THE EFFORT TO PASS THE INFORMATION ON TO SAVE MY HORSE 'BLUE PEARL".JUST IN TIME, AMAZING

A BIG THANK YOU TO YOU AND ALL WHO STAYED WITH ME HELPING FIGURING OUT HOW TO RESCUE HER. SO MUCH APPRECIATED AND I WILL CHERISH THIS FOREVER AND HOPE TO CARRY THIS ON TO HELP OTHERS.

WARM BLESSINGS
GAYA




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HORSE RECOVERED!!!

AMAZING RESULTS BY GIVING HER THE MAGNISUM CHLORIDE.

WE WERE UNAWARE THAT SHE WAS DEPLETING HERSELF IN SUCH A DANGEROUSLY HIGH RATE, DUE TO STESS AND PAIN.

THE MAGNESIUM CHLORIDE SAVED HER LIFE!

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH I CAN NOT EXPRESS THE GRATITUDE I FEEL FOR ALL THE LOVE AND HELP I RECEIVED A HUMBLE THANK YOU!

GAYA

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 Post subject: Re: Mg Supplementation
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:32 am 
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MAGNESIUM CHLORIDE IN ACUTE AND CHRONIC DISEASES
by Raul Vergini,MD

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Back in 1915, a French surgeon, Prof.Pierre Delbet,MD, was looking for a
solution to cleanse wounds, because he had found out that the traditional
antiseptic solutions actually mortified tissues and facilitated the
infection instead of preventing it.

He tested several mineral solutions and discovered that a Magnesium
Chloride solution was not only harmless for tissues, but it had also a
great effect over leucocytic activity and phagocytosis; so it was perfect
for external wounds treatment.

Dr.Delbet performed a lot of "in vitro" and "in vivo" experiments with this
solution and he became aware that it was good not only for external
applications, but it was also a powerful immuno-stimulant if taken by
injections or even by mouth. He called this effect "cytophilaxis". In some
"in vivo" experiments it was able to increase phagocytosis rate up to 300%.
Dr.Delbet serendipitously discovered that this oral solution had also a
tonic effect on many people and so became aware that the Magnesium Chloride
had an effect on the whole organism.

In a brief time, he received communications of very good therapeutics
effects of this "therapy" from people that were taking Magnesium Chloride
for its tonic properties and who were suffering from various ailments.
Prof.Delbet began to closely study the subject and verified that the
Magnesium Chloride solution was a very good therapy for a long list of
diseases.

He obtained very good results in: colitis, angiocholitis and cholecystitis
in the digestive apparatus; Parkinson's Disease, senile tremors and
muscular cramps in the nervous system; acne, eczema, psoriasis, warts, itch
of various origins and chilblains in the skin. There was a strengthening of
hair and nails, a good effect on diseases typical of the aged (impotency,
prostatic hypertrophy, cerebral and circulatory troubles) and on diseases
of allergic origin (hay-fever, asthma, urticaria and anaphylactic reactions).
Then Prof.Delbet began to investigate the relationship between Magnesium
and Cancer. After a lot of clinical and experimental studies, he found that
Magnesium Chloride had a very good effect on prevention of cancer and that
it was able to cure several precancerous conditions: leucoplasia,
hyperkeratosis, chronic mastitis, etc.

Epidemiological studies confirmed Delbet's views and demonstrated that the
regions with soil more rich in magnesium had less cancer incidence, and
vice versa.

In experimental studies, the Magnesium Chloride solution was also able to
slow down the course of cancer in laboratory animals.
Prof.Delbet wrote two books, "Politique Preventive du Cancer" (1944) and
"L'Agriculture et la Santé" (1945), in which he stated his ideas about
cancer prevention and a better living. The first is a well documented
report of all his studies on Magnesium Chloride.
In 1943 another French doctor, A.Neveu,MD, used the Magnesium Chloride
solution in a case of diphteria to reduce the risks of anaphylactic
reaction due to the anti-diphteric serum that he was ready to administer.
To his great surprise, when the next day the laboratory results confirmed
the diagnosis of diphteria, the little girl was completely cured, before he
could use the serum.

He credited the immuno-stimulant activity to the solution for this result,
and he tested it in some other diphteric patients. All the patients were
cured in a very short time (24-48 hours), with no after-effects. As
Magnesium Chloride has no direct effect on bacteria (i.e.it is not an
antibiotic ), Neveu thought that its action was aspecific,
immuno-enhancing, so it could be useful, in the same manner, also against
viral diseases. So he began to treat some cases of poliomyelitis, and had
the same wonderful results. He was very excited and tried to divulge the
therapy, but he ran into a wall of hostility and obstructionism from
"Official Medicine". Neither Neveu or Delbet (who was a member of the
Academy of Medicine) was able to diffuse Neveu's extraordinary results. The
opposition was total: Professors of Medicine, Medical Peer-Reviews, the
Academy itself, all were against the two doctors. "Official Medicine" saw
in Magnesium Chloride Therapy a threat to its new and growing business:
vaccinations.

Dr.Neveu wasn't discouraged by this and continued to test this therapy in a
wide range of diseases. He obtained very good results in: pharyngitis,
tonsillitis, hoarseness, common cold, influenza, asthma, bronchitis,
broncho-pneumonia, pulmonary emphysema, "children diseases"
(whooping-cough, measles, rubella, mumps, scarlet fever...), alimentary and
professional poisonings, gastroenteritis, boils, abscesses, erysipelas,
whitlow, septic pricks (wounds), puerperal fever and osteomyelitis.
But the indications for Magnesium Chloride therapy don't end here. In more
recent years other physicians (and I among these) have verified many of
Delbet's and Neveu's applications and have tried the therapy in other
pathologies: asthmatic acute attack, shock, tetanus (for these the solution
is administered by intravenous injection); herpes zoster, acute and chronic
conjunctivitis, optic neuritis, rheumatic diseases, many allergic diseases,
spring-asthenia and Cronic Fatigue Syndrome (even in cancer it can be an
useful adjuvant).

The preceding lists of ailments are by no means exhaustive; maybe other
illnesses can be treated with this therapy but, as this is a relatively
"young" treatment, we are pioneers, and we need the help of all physicians
of good will to definitely establish all the true possibilities of this
wonderful therapy.

From a practical standpoint, please remember that only Magnesium CHLORIDE
has this "cytophilactic" activity, and no other magnesium salt; probably
it's a molecular, and not a merely ionic, matter.
The solution to be used is a 2.5% Magnesium Chloride hexahydrate
(MgCl2-6H2O) solution (i.e.: 25 grams / 1 liter of water).

Dosages are as follows:

- Adults and children over 5 years old..................125 cc
- 4 year old children...........................................100 cc
- 3 year old children.............................................80 cc
- 1-2 year old children..........................................60 cc
- over 6 months old children..................................30 cc
- under 6 months old children................................15 cc

These doses must be administered BY MOUTH. The only controindication to
Magnesium Chloride Therapy is a severe renal insufficiency. As the
magnesium chloride has a mild laxative effect, diarrhea sometimes appears
on the first days of therapy, expecially when high dosages (i.e. three
doses a day) are taken; but this is not a reason to stop the therapy. The
taste of the solution is not very good (it has a bitter-saltish flavor) so
a little of fruit juice (grapefruit, orange, lemon) can be added to the
solution, or it can be even used in the place of water to make the solution
itself.

For CHRONIC diseases the standard treatment is one dose morning and evening
for a long period (several months at least, but it can be continued for
years).

In ACUTE diseases the dose is administered every 6 hours (every 3 hours the
first two doses if the case is serious); then space every 8 hours and then
12 hours as improvement goes on. After recovery it's better going on with a
dose every 12 hours for some days.

As a PREVENTIVE measure, and as a magnesium supplement, one dose a day can
be taken indefinitely. Magnesium Chloride, even if it's an inorganic salt,
is very well absorbed and it's a very good supplemental magnesium source.

For INTRAVENOUS injection, the formula is:

Magnesium Chloride hexahydrate......................25 grams
Distilled Water...................................................1000 cc

Make injections of 10-20cc (very slowly, over 10-20 minutes) once or twice
a day. Of course the solution must be sterilized.

This therapy gives very good results also in Veterinary Medicine, at the
appropriate dosages depending upon the size and kind of animals.


Raul Vergini,MD - Italy

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 Post subject: Re: Mg Supplementation
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:33 am 
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Well, having heard about magnesium oil for years, I finally tried it a few weeks ago with very interesting successes. I was hooked! I ordered Sirccus’ book, TRANSDERMAL MAGNESIUM and was intrigued with the idea of adding Magnesium Chloride to a lipo-C formula to help stimulate the immune system. I was encouraged that it probably could be done by finding a patent on liposomal Magnesium using magnesium salts. So I tried it this morning of incorporating Magnesium chloride flakes into my lipo-C formula. It was a unmitigated failure!

I did some further research and found that what probably happened was that

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“High salt concentrations can affect emulsions by lowering the interfacial tension and breaking the emulsion. Ionic compounds reduce the thickness of the electrical double layer at the oil–water interface, reducing repulsive forces between the droplets and causing coalescence. Emulsion stability is to a large extent determined by interparticle forces, which together with the forces acting between molecules within each aggregate determine the phase behavior of emulsions.” “The weaker vibrations of the more stable emulsions were probably due to reduced molecular interaction at the interface. However, adding magnesium or calcium chloride, enhanced the vibration of these groups, probably by disrupting the lecithin interaction at the emulsion interface.”


Thus my lipo-C emulsion fell apart!

I am wondering how the guy that was granted a patent for his lipo-mag got it to work? He did use a traditional lab protocol to make his liposomes, but even so, the salts should have made it fall apart! Makes me think some of these patents online are a big joke! He also cited two interesting experiments in his lab that seemed to show that his oral lipo-Mag increased blood magnesium serum levels in rats. He used 1.0 M MgCl2. A 1 molar MgCl solution that the patent holder used is equal to 20.33g of MgCl in 70ml of water. My formula this morning involved approximately adding 25 grams of MgCl to over 2000ml of water. So my MgCl solution was weaker than his, yet it failed to duplicate his results! Most curious!

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5501859.html

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:34 am 
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I also sustained nerve damage from a physician inserting a trocar in my chest for a collapsed lung in 1994. The pain from this intercostal penetration of a nerve bundle has caused me sharp excruciating pain for approximately 20 years and it isn't getting any better. I find that if I keep my weight down and fat off of my rib cage, the pain is even worse! The only thing that seems to help is spraying Magnesium oil on it. Dr. Oz pointed out on his show:




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Clinical experience, as well as research in nerve pain conditions such as pancreatic cancer, has shown that magnesium can be an effective treatment for pain. Although it is clear why magnesium can decrease muscle pain (it makes muscles relax), why it would help nerve pain was less clear. A new study on rats to be printed in The Journal of Physiology confirms our clinical experience that magnesium decreases nerve pain — while also pointing to how it works.

A major mechanism of pain is the excessive stimulation of a brain chemical called “NMDA.” The few medications that help decrease and balance this pain-carrying neurotransmitter have the downside of causing significant side effects. Magnesium seems to settle down NMDA without the toxicity. The upside of magnesium is that is very inexpensive (pennies a dose). The downside is that it hasn’t yet made it through the FDA approval process.

The good news is that you don't have to wait for the FDA. Magnesium can be found in supplement form at most health food stores. And magnesium oxide, though not as well absorbed, can also be found for about a nickel per 500 mg tablet.

For an especially powerful effect, the magnesium can be used intravenously, and is an important tool used by most holistic physicians (including those at the Fibromyalgia and Fatigue Centers). Many holistic physicians use IV magnesium to eliminate an acute migraine headache. It has even been shown to ease the incredibly severe nerve pain that can sometimes be seen in pancreatic cancer. It is also very helpful for settling down fibromyalgia pain, which has a muscle and nerve component.

The authors of the study suggest that magnesium deficiency can be a major amplifier of pain. Because of food processing, most people are magnesium deficient. If you have pain, taking magnesium each day can start to decrease these deficiencies as well as the pain, after just several weeks — while also leaving you feeling more energetic. (If you have kidney problems, do not use without your physician's OK.)

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